Law­yer settles suit over ‘graves’

‘Deni­al­ism’ law ‘the oppos­ite of the spirit of recon­cili­ation’

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24 Jul 2026

Law­yer settles suit over ‘graves’

‘Deni­al­ism’ law ‘the oppos­ite of the spirit of recon­cili­ation’

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Law­yer settles suit over ‘graves’

‘Deni­al­ism’ law ‘the oppos­ite of the spirit of recon­cili­ation’

[Would-be Indian cesnors want to send you to jail for questioning this gobbledegook: “

He said he recently vis­ited the Kam­loops site and that First Nations did not have to prove there were bod­ies by exhum­ing them.

“They are there and they send us mes­sages telling us they’re there,” he said. “You can tell they’re there, right? Feel the power and the energy. For some­body that’s not from our com­munit­ies, that doesn’t under­stand our cul­ture, you can­not under­stand what that means.”]

24 Jul 2026

Mak­ing crim­in­als out of people who merely ask ques­tions about the res­id­en­tial school sys­tem is not the path to recon­cili­ation, says B.C. law­yer Jim Heller.

Good­will and open dia­logue are needed far more than try­ing to imprison people under a “deni­al­ism” law, accord­ing to Heller, whose defam­a­tion suit against his own law soci­ety over poten­tial graves at the former Kam­loops Indian Res­id­en­tial School was recently settled.

Heller sees the Kam­loops con­tro­versy as a soci­etal sick­ness where facts and truth are side­lined in favour of ideo­logy.

“As a law­yer, it is all about pro­mot­ing, devel­op­ing, respect­ing and fine-tun­ing a pro­cess, all in order to ask a ques­tion. That’s what it’s all about, this kind of rig­or­ous, ana­lyt­ical, open, rational think­ing. And that is the found­a­tion of everything. It’s so fun­da­mental,” he said in an inter­view Tues­day.

But rigour and ana­lysis are now absent in many parts of our insti­tu­tions, leav­ing them open to attack from out­side forces, he said.

“There’s a weak­en­ing and a sick­ness in our soci­ety, and it’s just kind of per­meated the insti­tu­tions,” Heller said.

“It’s got to be cured. But maybe that won’t hap­pen. Maybe we’re just soften­ing so that we’ll have so little res­ist­ance for whatever’s next, whether it’s the Islami­fic­a­tion of Canada or the CCP (Chinese Com­mun­ist Party) or some sort of con­trols we can’t even anti­cip­ate.”

Heller found him­self in a battle with the Law Soci­ety of Brit­ish Columbia (LSBC) over anom­alies dis­covered by ground-pen­et­rat­ing radar at the former Kam­loops Res­id­en­tial School. He objec­ted to man­dat­ory law soci­ety edu­ca­tional mater­i­als that con­tained the phrase, “On May 27, 2021, the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc Nation repor­ted the dis­cov­ery of an unmarked burial site con­tain­ing the bod­ies of 215 chil­dren on the former Kam­loops Indian Res­id­en­tial School grounds.”

When Heller sub­mit­ted a res­ol­u­tion to the law soci­ety’s annual gen­eral meet­ing stat­ing that no graves had been dis­covered and ask­ing the LSBC to insert the word “poten­tial” when dis­cuss­ing the anom­alies, he sud­denly found him­self under attack. One critic was the BC First Nations Justice Coun­cil, which issued a state­ment ref­er­en­cing a “grow­ing dis­il­lu­sioned sect” that was using “deni­al­ism” to down­play the hor­rors of res­id­en­tial schools.

Heller claimed the LSBC pos­ted a link to the press release in an online state­ment know­ing it was defam­at­ory. His law­suit alleged the LSBC refused to take down the press release and issue an apo­logy and a retrac­tion.

We need good­will, the pre­sump­tion of good­will so we can have some real dia­logue.

The law soci­ety denied defam­ing Heller as his suit moved through the courts. The case has now been settled, although the terms are con­fid­en­tial.

In May this year, the law soci­ety issued a cla­ri­fic­a­tion stat­ing that “to the degree it was under­stood by some to have defamed Mr. Heller, the Law Soci­ety wishes to con­firm that was not its inten­tion.”

What is so utterly bizarre about the case is that Heller was only try­ing to insert the word “poten­tial” in rela­tion to the graves, which would have been truth­ful and fac­tual. No graves and no bod­ies have been found at the site des­pite a press release in 2021 from the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc that talked of “the remains of 215 chil­dren” at Kam­loops.

As Heller poin­ted out, even the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc has changed the way it dis­cusses the mat­ter, now opt­ing for terms like “poten­tial graves” and “anom­alies” at Kam­loops.

The danger for people like Heller is that they would almost cer­tainly find them­selves in the crosshairs of the law should “deni­al­ism” of res­id­en­tial schools get into the Crim­inal Code.

Last week, First Nations held a press con­fer­ence to call for a ban on res­id­en­tial school deni­al­ism, echo­ing a recent failed attempt by a sen­ator to make it illegal for any­one to engage in the “con­don­ing, deny­ing or down­play­ing” of res­id­en­tial schools, with a pro­posed max­imum pen­alty of two years’ impris­on­ment.

Dur­ing the press con­fer­ence, Man­itoba Kee­wat­inowi Oki­makanak Grand Chief Gar­rison Settee said Canada was per­petu­at­ing hate by not passing a deni­al­ism law.

He said he recently vis­ited the Kam­loops site and that First Nations did not have to prove there were bod­ies by exhum­ing them.

“They are there and they send us mes­sages telling us they’re there,” he said. “You can tell they’re there, right? Feel the power and the energy. For some­body that’s not from our com­munit­ies, that doesn’t under­stand our cul­ture, you can­not under­stand what that means.”

Such a stance does not sit well with Heller.

“He’s say­ing, ‘We know this is true. The dead kids are there; they’re talk­ing to us.’ That’s one thing for them to have that kind of out­rageous belief and to make a point of doing a press con­fer­ence,” said Heller, “but you com­bine that with, ‘And we’re going to court to make it illegal for you to even raise an eye­brow about that.’ Well that’s pretty incred­ible.”

Heller added that First Nations “speak in terms of poten­tial and anom­alies, but they still won’t have a dis­cus­sion. That’s ridicu­lous. The very fact that you’re using tent­at­ive lan­guage is like an invit­a­tion to talk.

“This is the oppos­ite of the spirit of recon­cili­ation. It’s just crazy. We need good­will, the pre­sump­tion of good­will so we can have some real dia­logue.”

Unfor­tu­nately, con­struct­ive dia­logue, dis­cus­sion and dis­course are sadly lack­ing in today’s Canada.

B.C. law­yer Jim Heller, shown, sees the Kam­loops graves con­tro­versy as a soci­etal sick­ness where facts and truth are side­lined in favour of ideo­logy, writes Michael Hig­gins.
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Lawyer settles suit over ‘graves’

‘Denialism’ law ‘the opposite of the spirit of reconciliation’

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B.C. lawyer Jim Heller, shown, sees the Kamloops graves controversy as a societal sickness where facts and truth are sidelined in favour of ideology, writes Michael Higgins.

Making criminals out of people who merely ask questions about the residential school system is not the path to reconciliation, says B.C. lawyer Jim Heller.

Goodwill and open dialogue are needed far more than trying to imprison people under a “denialism” law, according to Heller, whose defamation suit against his own law society over potential graves at the former Kamloops Indian Residential School was recently settled.

Heller sees the Kamloops controversy as a societal sickness where facts and truth are sidelined in favour of ideology.

“As a lawyer, it is all about promoting, developing, respecting and fine-tuning a process, all in order to ask a question. That’s what it’s all about, this kind of rigorous, analytical, open, rational thinking. And that is the foundation of everything. It’s so fundamental,” he said in an interview Tuesday.

But rigour and analysis are now absent in many parts of our institutions, leaving them open to attack from outside forces, he said.

“There’s a weakening and a sickness in our society, and it’s just kind of permeated the institutions,” Heller said.

“It’s got to be cured. But maybe that won’t happen. Maybe we’re just softening so that we’ll have so little resistance for whatever’s next, whether it’s the Islamification of Canada or the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) or some sort of controls we can’t even anticipate.”

Heller found himself in a battle with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC) over anomalies discovered by ground-penetrating radar at the former Kamloops Residential School. He objected to mandatory law society educational materials that contained the phrase, “On May 27, 2021, the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc Nation reported the discovery of an unmarked burial site containing the bodies of 215 children on the former Kamloops Indian Residential School grounds.”

When Heller submitted a resolution to the law society’s annual general meeting stating that no graves had been discovered and asking the LSBC to insert the word “potential” when discussing the anomalies, he suddenly found himself under attack. One critic was the BC First Nations Justice Council, which issued a statement referencing a “growing disillusioned sect” that was using “denialism” to downplay the horrors of residential schools.

Heller claimed the LSBC posted a link to the press release in an online statement knowing it was defamatory. His lawsuit alleged the LSBC refused to take down the press release and issue an apology and a retraction.

We need goodwill, the presumption of goodwill so we can have some real dialogue.

The law society denied defaming Heller as his suit moved through the courts. The case has now been settled, although the terms are confidential.

In May this year, the law society issued a clarification stating that “to the degree it was understood by some to have defamed Mr. Heller, the Law Society wishes to confirm that was not its intention.”

What is so utterly bizarre about the case is that Heller was only trying to insert the word “potential” in relation to the graves, which would have been truthful and factual. No graves and no bodies have been found at the site despite a press release in 2021 from the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc that talked of “the remains of 215 children” at Kamloops.

As Heller pointed out, even the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc has changed the way it discusses the matter, now opting for terms like “potential graves” and “anomalies” at Kamloops.

The danger for people like Heller is that they would almost certainly find themselves in the crosshairs of the law should “denialism” of residential schools get into the Criminal Code.

Last week, First Nations held a press conference to call for a ban on residential school denialism, echoing a recent failed attempt by a senator to make it illegal for anyone to engage in the “condoning, denying or downplaying” of residential schools, with a proposed maximum penalty of two years’ imprisonment.

During the press conference, Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak Grand Chief Garrison Settee said Canada was perpetuating hate by not passing a denialism law.

He said he recently visited the Kamloops site and that First Nations did not have to prove there were bodies by exhuming them.

“They are there and they send us messages telling us they’re there,” he said. “You can tell they’re there, right? Feel the power and the energy. For somebody that’s not from our communities, that doesn’t understand our culture, you cannot understand what that means.”

Such a stance does not sit well with Heller.

“He’s saying, ‘We know this is true. The dead kids are there; they’re talking to us.’ That’s one thing for them to have that kind of outrageous belief and to make a point of doing a press conference,” said Heller, “but you combine that with, ‘And we’re going to court to make it illegal for you to even raise an eyebrow about that.’ Well that’s pretty incredible.”

Heller added that First Nations “speak in terms of potential and anomalies, but they still won’t have a discussion. That’s ridiculous. The very fact that you’re using tentative language is like an invitation to talk.

“This is the opposite of the spirit of reconciliation. It’s just crazy. We need goodwill, the presumption of goodwill so we can have some real dialogue.”

Unfortunately, constructive dialogue, discussion and discourse are sadly lacking in today’s Canada.

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CAFE PROTEST TO ABBOTSFORD SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE FIRING OF TEACHER JIM MCMURTRY FOR CHALLENGING KAMLOOPS RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL GENOCIDE STORY

Canadian Association for Free Expression

Box 332,

Rexdale, Ontario,

M9W 5L3

Ph: 416-428-5308

Website http://cafe.nfshost.com

Paul Fromm, B.Ed, M.A. Director

March 1, 2023

Mr. Kevin Godden, Superintendent of Schools,

Abbotsford School District
2790 Tims Street,

 Abbotsford, BC  

V2T 4M7

Dear Mr. Godden:

            I ask that you bring this correspondence to the next meeting of the Abbotsford District School Board

            We are appalled at the Board’s February 21 decision to fire teacher Jim McMurtry. His “crime’? Back in 2021 when the media was filled with exaggerated stories of a mass grave found outside the former Kamloops Indian Residential School. One of Mr. McMurtry’s grade 12 students alleged that Catholic priests had tortured and killed Indian children and left them to freeze in the snow. Firstly, there is no evidence with melodramatic scenario ever occurred. Indeed, close to two years later, there is actually no evidence that the alleged 218 “graves” are indeed graves. If they are graves, there’s no evidence who is buried there and what caused these people’s deaths.

            As a good and responsible teacher, Mr. McMurtry gently corrected the enthusiastic student’s comment, which echoes longtime anti-Catholic bias that was once rife. Mr. McMurtry stated that most children who died in residential schools died from disease, which was true not just of native children at that time, but children in general.

            Dr. McMurtry has extensive experience and education in Native issues. His comment is not merely his opinion, it is the conclusion of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. According to graph 6 of the report, The overwhelming cause of the deaths of Native children in residential schools (1867 to 2000) was tuberculosis, followed by a long distance by influenza and respiratory diseases.

            It’s often forgotten that tuberculosis was a major blight in Canada up into the 1950s. In my own family alone, two relatives spent time in sanitoria to recover from tuberculosis, or TB in common terms.

            So, Dr. McMurtry’s offence was to tell the truth!

            As unjust as your decision was for Dr. McMurtry, it perpetrated an even greater injustice on the student body. What does it teach students? Certainly, not to think for themselves and follow the evidence, sometimes even challenging currently accepted ideology. No, it teaches them that, if they dissent from currently fashionable Woke doctrine, they’d better shut up and keep their views to themselves. Remember what happened to Dr. McMurtry!

            The students deserve better. The taxpayers deserve better.

            We urge you to reconsider your decision.

                                                            Sincerely yours,

                                                            Paul Fromm, Director

CAFE PROTEST TO ABBOTSFORD SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE FIRING OF TEACHER JIM MCMURTRY FOR CHALLENGING KAMLOOPS RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL GENOCIDE STORY

Canadian Association for Free Expression

Box 332,

Rexdale, Ontario,

M9W 5L3

Ph: 416-428-5308

Website http://cafe.nfshost.com

Paul Fromm, B.Ed, M.A. Director

March 1, 2023

Mr. Kevin Godden, Superintendent of Schools,

Abbotsford School District
2790 Tims Street,

 Abbotsford, BC  

V2T 4M7

Dear Mr. Godden:

            I ask that you bring this correspondence to the next meeting of the Abbotsford District School Board

            We are appalled at the Board’s February 21 decision to fire teacher Jim McMurtry. His “crime’? Back in 2021 when the media was filled with exaggerated stories of a mass grave found outside the former Kamloops Indian Residential School. One of Mr. McMurtry’s grade 12 students alleged that Catholic priests had tortured and killed Indian children and left them to freeze in the snow. Firstly, there is no evidence with melodramatic scenario ever occurred. Indeed, close to two years later, there is actually no evidence that the alleged 218 “graves” are indeed graves. If they are graves, there’s no evidence who is buried there and what caused these people’s deaths.

            As a good and responsible teacher, Mr. McMurtry gently corrected the enthusiastic student’s comment, which echoes longtime anti-Catholic bias that was once rife. Mr. McMurtry stated that most children who died in residential schools died from disease, which was true not just of native children at that time, but children in general.

            Dr. McMurtry has extensive experience and education in Native issues. His comment is not merely his opinion, it is the conclusion of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. According to graph 6 of the report, The overwhelming cause of the deaths of Native children in residential schools (1867 to 2000) was tuberculosis, followed by a long distance by influenza and respiratory diseases.

            It’s often forgotten that tuberculosis was a major blight in Canada up into the 1950s. In my own family alone, two relatives spent time in sanitoria to recover from tuberculosis, or TB in common terms.

            So, Dr. McMurtry’s offence was to tell the truth!

            As unjust as your decision was for Dr. McMurtry, it perpetrated an even greater injustice on the student body. What does it teach students? Certainly, not to think for themselves and follow the evidence, sometimes even challenging currently accepted ideology. No, it teaches them that, if they dissent from currently fashionable Woke doctrine, they’d better shut up and keep their views to themselves. Remember what happened to Dr. McMurtry!

            The students deserve better. The taxpayers deserve better.

            We urge you to reconsider your decision.

                                                            Sincerely yours,

                                                            Paul Fromm, Director

Canadian teacher of 40 years fired for speaking out against Trudeau’s ‘mass grave’ hoax

Canadian teacher of 40 years fired for speaking out against Trudeau’s ‘mass grave’ hoax



[The Red Guards of wokeness have claimed another victim, Jim McMurtry, who only tried to correct a misinformed student who claimed that Catholic priests had murdered many young Indians in residential school. He quoted the report of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission that tubereculosis was the major killer, there in in the greater society until the 1950s. For this and because he refused to be silenced, this brilliant and educated man was fired. I sympathize. After a 25 year career as an “exemplary teacher”, I too was fired in 1997 by the Peel Board of Education, not for anything I said or did in the classroom but for my political views expressed on my own time, outside school property. — Paul Fromm]

According to his employer, since school teacher Jim McMurtry would not forego his ‘democratic right’ or be ‘muzzled’ he of course must be fired. Featured ImageKamloops Residential SchoolChris Allan/Shutterstock


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ABBOTSFORD, B.C. (LifeSiteNews) — A Canadian teacher who taught for forty years has been fired for speaking out against the now roundly debunked “mass grave” narrative that Trudeau and the mainstream media peddled in 2021.

According to the National Post, Jim McMurtry was fired on Tuesday, February 21, for daring to speak out against the misinformation about the Canadian residential school history.

In 2021 when the “mass grave” narrative spread across Canada, faster than the dozens of Church burnings that it inspired, McMurtry corrected one of his students in a Grade-12 class who stated that priests had murdered and tortured children and left them to freeze to death in the snow.

He told the student that most children who died in residential schools died from disease, which was true not just of native children at that time, but children in general.

It may seem insane to hear that people were bandying around the notion that priests were essentially serial murderers for decades without ever being stopped, but that is what people thought. — Article continues below Petition — PETITION: Trudeau must apologize for “mass grave” smear that led to church-burnings   Show Petition Text 4946 have signed the petition.Let’s get to 5000! Add your signature: Keep me updated via email on this petition and related issues.

I distinctly remember Canada Day in 2021 – what a dark day that was – and even family members had come to the conclusion that Catholic priests and nuns had ritually murdered children and thrown them into massive pits behind the schools.

Of course, as the Post report pointed out, nothing like this was ever recorded in any official report.

For his efforts, McMurtry was marched out of the school for having committed what might be the only mortal sin left in public education: not peddling a communist narrative.

Ironically, all McMurtry did was repeat information that was recorded in the federal government’s own Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) report. The TCR report is far from a “conservative” or “right-wing” document, and has been sharply criticized for shoddy scholarship and not including the massive amounts of positive claims about residential schools.

Alas, McMurtry’s reference to historical information in a government-approved report that did not include positive information about the residential schools was seen as unacceptable, and he was suspended.

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A year after his initial suspension he refused to remain silent about the injustice and was subsequently fired.

The report that recommended he be axed admitted that his commitment to telling the truth was why he was fired:

Given Mr. McMurtry’s assertions that he will not be ‘muzzled,’ that he has a democratic right to speak, that he will not follow directions, it is clear that Mr. McMurtry’s employment can no longer continue.

So, according to his employer, since McMurtry would not forego his “democratic right” or be “muzzled,” he of course must be fired.

It is worth remembering that we are not speaking about some renegade activist, but a teacher of four decades who simply corrected a student who said something different than the official government information. This affair is nothing more than an employer penalizing a man who is shedding light on the fact that the employer was wrong in the first place.

How have we arrived at the point where a public school teacher is disciplined for telling students information that was made available to the public by a publicly funded government inquiry?

As if the firing wasn’t absurd enough, McMurtry holds a master’s degree in the history of education and a doctorate in the philosophy of education, with a specialty in indigenous history.

The man is literally an accredited expert in education and the history of native Canadians, but was sacked for telling the truth about the history of native Canadians.

Apparently in Canada, any degrees and experience one might have is irrelevant if you don’t move at the speed of woke.

About the affair, McMurtry said:

This woke indoctrination [is] as offensive as any totalitarian ideology that has ever been pushed… There are people who believe that Canada is systemically racist and that all our ancestors were monsters. And I’m the person who is saying, ‘Well, let’s debate it. Let’s look at it.’

He also said that teachers “are walking on eggshells,” and need to speak up before it is too late.

It was reported that he was “terminated for just and reasonable cause,” but it seems that reason went out the window with the actual truth about native Canadian history.