Alison Chabloz, 53, arrived at court holding flowers and was supported from the public gallery by her followers
An anti-Semitic song writer told a court today that the holocaust is ‘meaningless’ and the Germans were unfairly blamed for the Second World War.
Alison Chabloz, 53, laughed as she was read lyrics to her songs mocked Jews being fashioned into lampshades, having their heads shrunk and being turned into bars of soap.
The songs, ‘(((Survivors)))’, ‘Nemo’s Anti-Semetic Universe’ and ‘I Like It How It Is’ are said to go beyond the right to free speech in that they caused gross offence.
Some were performed live at the London Forum, while others were played for the camera, but all were uploaded to the internet.
In one number she mocks prominent Jewish figures including Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel and Anne and Otto Frank to the tune of a traditional Jewish song.
Chabloz was asked by prosecutor, Karen Robinson, whether she denied the holocaust.
‘Deny the holocaust? I am sorry I do not understand this term.
‘Who can deny the holocaust? It is a term that is meaningless in itself.’
Chabloz, seen arriving at court, describes herself as a Holocaust ‘revisionist’ and raises questions about the validity of the Holocaust
Ms Robinson said: ‘In your police interview you made a distinction between holocaust denial and revisionism.’
Chabloz said: ‘You can call it holocaust denial but I prefer holocaust revisionism.
‘I think there should be an official scientific and forensic investigation.
‘I doubt very much that a murder case would be brought to these courts without forensic investigation.
‘It is very unlikely to have been more than a million killed – that is my understanding of having researched the information available.
‘Certainly a million – perhaps more – but until there is an official forensics investigation…
‘It is impossible to assess that the gas chambers actually existed to kill human beings without evidence it is impossible to affirm that the supposed murder took place.
‘There is absolutely no doubt that those taken to concentration camps suffered great tragedy, taken away from family and home.
‘As the war years continued and got harder for everybody and we see the allied bombing of the German infrastructure – why would they not bomb the concentration camps?
‘A disproportionate amount of blame was put on the Germans by the victors. The victors got to write history. It was a war – everybody suffered.
She arrived at court holding onto flowers and was followed into court by some of her supporters
‘I would say that the so-called holocaust has been used to sustain the criminal state of Israel – it is used as a foundation myth.
‘By sending school children on trips to Auschwitz and inculcating them into believing in the gas chambers, the so-called holocaust is used as a weapon to prevent nationalistic feeling amongst European people.
‘It’s about furthering the globalist agenda.
‘It is certainly a topic worthy of investigation and of intelligent debate and discussion.’
Much of the questioning revolved around historical rather than legal argument as Ms Robinson tried to pin down Chabloz on her anti-semitism.
In one of her songs Chabloz jokes that if six million Jews had been killed that would not have been a bad thing.
Ms Robinson questioned Chabloz on her police interview where she said, ‘My grandfather certainly didn’t fight for our towns and cities to be taken over by non-whites and non-Christians.’
Chabloz told her, ‘It’s my right to express those views.’
Ms Robinson said: ‘This is not an unqualified right – one cannot send material or matter on the internet which is grossly offensive.’
Chabloz retorted, ‘But it depends for whom doesn’t it, because there are plenty of parodies of Christian music that say Jesus was gay or that he must have been born by a donkey.
‘It is concerning that where I live, my people I love, my race, that we will become an ethnic minority.’
Ms Robinson told her, ‘The views you have expressed are anti-Semitic and racist.
‘You said of the white race, “It breaks my heart to see that disappearing.”
‘That is nothing more than racism.’
At which point there was loud booing from the public gallery and Chabloz’s barrister, Adrian Davies, rose to speak.
‘Now the witness is being treated much as a heretic during the inquisition, she is entitled to any political view that she wishes,’ Mr Davies said.
‘The example of the well known case of the street preachers who preach in the street that homosexuality is wrong – they are perfectly entitled to express that view so long as they are not being grossly offensive.
Chabloz, seen arriving at court today, denied the charges in October, claiming she was being silenced by the ‘UK Jewish lobby’
‘It is not a crime in England to say that no Jews died at the hands of the Germans – it is a perfectly lawful position – it is therefore, not relevant to interrogate the witness about her opinions.’
The Crown must prove that Chabloz has caused ‘gross’ offence, Mr Davies believes that the statute is poorly set out.
Chabloz says that her songs provoke a ‘range of reactions’ and although some are ‘close to the bone,’ it is no fault of hers if someone chooses to be offended.
She cited a recent music video on YouTube by the black rapper Xxxtencion where he is seen to lynch a white child and the disparity in public outrage.
Chabloz is represented by Adrian Davies, who defended infamous historian and holocaust denier David Irving in 2001 at the Court of Appeal following his failed libel case against Deborah Lipstadt.
Chabloz, of Moss Croft, Town Lane, Glossop, Derbyshire, denies five counts of sending obscene material by public communication networks at Westminster Magistrates’ Court.
The charges centre on whether embedding the hyperlink to the footage constitutes as sending, and if her songs were grossly offensive.
She was bailed ahead of final submissions on 14 May and a verdict will be given on 25 May.
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