Tucker [00:00:00] Illegal immigration into the United States is at its highest levels ever. Tens of millions of people have come here illegally over the past 15 years, and none of them will ever leave. Mostly they come from the poorest countries on the planet. We don\u2019t know anything about them, really. We don\u2019t know if they\u2019re pro-America. We don\u2019t know if they\u2019re hostile to the people who already live here. We don\u2019t know, in the case of the recent arrivals, what they\u2019re going to do for a living as robotics eliminate low-skilled jobs. So what\u2019s happening right now at the border that what\u2019s often mentioned on TV is really undersold as a story. This is changing America forever, and almost certainly for the worse as we\u2019re watching it. And no one is doing anything about it. The governor of Texas occasionally makes noises about it \u2014 it\u2019s over his border that this human wave is flowing, and yet he\u2019s taken no real steps to stop it. There are some media outlets that let you know that it\u2019s happening in general terms, but they don\u2019t seem particularly outraged by it. We\u2019re sitting here as our country is destroyed and no one\u2019s responding, and at some point you have to ask why? Are the majority of Americans in favor of this? Of course not. In fact, no one\u2019s in favor of this. No one will defend this in public. No one will explain why we need it. Why it\u2019s a good idea. How it\u2019s going to help this country. How your grandchildren will live in a better place because of it. People are just silent, like it\u2019s not even happening. And again, you have to ask why. And the answer, of course, is really simple because they\u2019re afraid, they know they\u2019ll be punished if they say anything about it. The story of Peter and Lydia Brimelow explains why they\u2019re afraid. Peter Brimelow has been a journalist for 50 years. Worked at a whole bunch of what are now called mainstream publications. Was an editor \u2014 Barron\u2019s, Forbes, National Review, Dow Jones,<\/em> a legitimate old school journalist. And in the late 90s, he began to ask questions about our immigration scheme. Is this really good idea, is it helping America? And of course, no one could answer those questions because the answer is obvious. No, it\u2019s destroying America; as it destroyed California, so it will destroy your state. That\u2019s certain. But for asking that question, he was fired from his jobs and shunted off into what we call the fringes. But he didn\u2019t stop. He started a website called VDARE. He runs it now with his wife, Lydia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n And for the crime in the supposedly free country of opposing the immigration system currently in place \u2014 not the official system, but the actual system \u2014 where anyone from the poorest parts of America [sic] with no skills whatsoever can come here and immediately go on welfare. That\u2019s our current system. For saying that that\u2019s a bad idea, powerful forces have just tried, to destroy their lives, not just their lives, the lives of their family, using the justice system to do it. And needless to say, you probably guessed, using something called the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is nothing to [do with] the South or poverty. It has to do with shutting down free speech in this country. They have descended on the Brimelows and have really kind of tried to destroy them. That\u2019s not an overstatement, but you judge for yourself because Lydia Brimelow, who helps run VDARE, joins us now to explain what\u2019s happened to her. Lydia, thanks so much for coming on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lydia Brimelow [00:03:13] Thank you so much, Tucker. It\u2019ll be very nice to have our story told.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Tucker [00:03:18] So I have known your husband, sort of, since he was not a controversial figure at all. And he became a controversial figure when he began to say things like, hey, why are we doing this? And he was immediately called a white nationalist, a white supremacist. And I remember very well his response, which is, no, I\u2019m not. And if I was, I\u2019d say so. But that kept up and he wound up publishing with you, VDARE online. That would seem not a particularly controversial thing to do in a free country. But for your family, it\u2019s been, a very risky thing to do. So I hope that you would explain to us what the government, we\u2019ll start with the government, is trying to do to you for daring to oppose the immigration system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lydia Brimelow [00:04:03] Yeah, absolutely. So it\u2019s hard to believe everybody who hears the story says it\u2019s completely incredible. Peter founded VDARE Foundation, which has [as] its main project VDARE.com, back in the late 90s. As you said, we\u2019re in our 25th year now, and I joined about ten years ago. I do the fundraising and the back office work, and he handles everything that goes up on the website VDARE.com. We\u2019re a nonprofit journalism enterprise. So everything that we do, all of our people are paid through generous donations from individuals. I can tell you we don\u2019t get any government grants or big foundation grants either. It\u2019s all just grassroots. And we\u2019re veterans of cancel culture at this point. So we\u2019ve been kicked off a lot of mainstream services that most people use to distribute the media that they produce. And that is nothing compared to what we\u2019re facing right now, which started about two years ago, originating out of the hate crimes division in the state of New York. A series of subpoenas were issued by Letitia James first, to Facebook, which I can explain a little bit in a minute. And then to us and our board members, at VDARE Foundation, with no clear trigger, they have refused to tell us what they\u2019re investigating. It\u2019s been two years of us just being crushed under this burden of investigation. The subpoenas were, like, 47 points each.<\/p>\n\n\n\n They want us to turn over essentially every document that we have interacted with, since 2016. And for a small organization, you know, at our peak, we had four full time employees. Right now we have two. That\u2019s Peter and myself. This has just been an absolutely crushing burden. And I will say the Facebook subpoena was interesting because we had actually been kicked off of Facebook, years previous. So we had not even been on Facebook to interact with Facebook in many years, and they were asking for all of the data that VDARE had ever accumulated, created, while we were on Facebook, which we had incidentally, also requested. VDARE was kicked off of Facebook the same day that every one of the people involved in our organization was kicked off, including myself. I had never posted anything political online, at all, but they took all my baby pictures. The video of my daughter\u2019s first steps, which was not saved anywhere else. Facebook still has that. They have, in fact, told my lawyers that we are too dangerous to get our data back, including my daughter taking her first steps. So that was the first subpoena that Letitia James\u2019s hate crimes division issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Tucker [00:06:43] May I ask you to pause for one moment and just clarify something. So Facebook is calling you too dangerous to possess your own baby pictures? Has VDARE ever committed violence? Is there something we\u2019re missing? Terrorism? Insurrection. Killing people?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lydia Brimelow [00:06:59] Never.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Tucker [00:07:00] Okay, okay. Sorry. I just want to clarify that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lydia Brimelow [00:06:59] We\u2019ve never even been accused of doing that, right? I mean, people use these scare smear words all the time, white nationalists, white supremacists, racist, xenophobe, whatever the flavor of the day is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n So we get accused of being those things all the time, which we would argue we are not. But violence is something we have never been associated with. We\u2019re even careful to talk about the national divorce because of what implications that might have. I mean, we\u2019re living in a very high-tension environment right now politically. And I think it\u2019s important that people choose their words very carefully and choose their actions very carefully. I think it\u2019s entirely justified that a large portion of the American population feels drawn to activism right now, but it needs to be chosen very carefully. And once you destroy something, you can\u2019t take it back. And our enemies should remember that too. Once they destroy us, what are they going to do then?<\/p>\n\n\n\n But to go back to the subpoenas, we have our mainstream, you know, when I say mainstream, what I mean is like in normal times when VDARE is just surviving cancel culture and putting out this message that demography is destiny and that America is legitimate and real, that we\u2019re a true culture and we have a national identity that\u2019s worth defending, and that immigration has massive negative effects that nobody\u2019s talking about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Our operation is about $800,000 a year. In the last 12 months, about, we\u2019ve had to spend half a million dollars just complying with the subpoenas.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n The full, 37-minute interview is available at Tucker Carlson\u2019s website.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n See also: James Edwards Q and A w\/ Peter Brimelow<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n <\/a>F<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Share<\/a>General<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Previous Previous post: Race Ruins Everything<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Next Next post: Former GOP Senate Nominee Lauren Witzke Speaks Candidly<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *<\/p>\n\n\n\n Comment *<\/p>\n\n\n\n Name *<\/p>\n\n\n\n Email *<\/p>\n\n\n\n Website<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lawfare By New York Radical Leftist Letitia James Targets Peter Brimelow and VDARE, Immigration Critics for Destruction Tucker Carlson recently interviewed Lydia Brimelow about New York Attorney General Letitia James\u2019s attack on VDare. 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