{"id":2488,"date":"2018-09-02T08:20:58","date_gmt":"2018-09-02T12:20:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?p=2488"},"modified":"2018-09-02T08:20:58","modified_gmt":"2018-09-02T12:20:58","slug":"your-truth-and-my-truth-professor-frei-ursula-haverbeck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?p=2488","title":{"rendered":"Your Truth and My Truth Professor Frei! \u2013 Ursula Haverbeck"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"container\">\n<div id=\"content\" role=\"main\">\n<div id=\"nav-above\" class=\"navigation\">\n<div class=\"nav-previous\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/2018\/09\/deine-und-meine-wahrheit-herr-prof-frei-haverbeck\/\" rel=\"prev\"><span class=\"meta-nav\">\u2190<\/span> Deine und Meine Wahrheit Herr Prof. Frei \u2013 Haverbeck<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"nav-next\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"post-106389\" class=\"post-106389 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-holocausts-und-holohoax category-ursula-haverbeck\">\n<h1 class=\"entry-title\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Your Truth and My Truth Professor Frei! \u2013 Ursula Haverbeck<\/span><\/strong><\/h1>\n<div class=\"entry-meta\"><span class=\"meta-prep meta-prep-author\">Posted on<\/span> <a title=\"5:14 pm\" href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/2018\/09\/your-truth-and-my-truth-professor-frei-ursula-haverbeck\/\" rel=\"bookmark\"><span class=\"entry-date\">September 1, 2018<\/span><\/a> <span class=\"meta-sep\">by<\/span> <span class=\"author vcard\"><a class=\"url fn n\" title=\"View all posts by eyes wide open\" href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/author\/Sofece L. Ecisenefevo\/\">eyes wide open<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reposted from Henry Hafenmayer<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>July 31, 2018<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The following letter from Ursula Haverbeck, unfortunately, reached me only today. However, I do not wish to keep it from the public. A contribution to this case has already been made <a href=\"https:\/\/endederluege.blog\/2018\/07\/30\/blinder-hass-auf-ursula-haverbeck\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here [in German]<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-105506\" src=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Haverbeck-im-Gerichtssaal-court-60pc.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 387px) 100vw, 387px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Haverbeck-im-Gerichtssaal-court-60pc.jpg 610w, http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Haverbeck-im-Gerichtssaal-court-60pc-150x84.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Haverbeck-im-Gerichtssaal-court-60pc-400x224.jpg 400w, http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Haverbeck-im-Gerichtssaal-court-60pc-600x335.jpg 600w\" alt=\"\" width=\"387\" height=\"216\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Frau Ursula Haverbeck<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From Prison<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>July 31, 2018<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yours and My Truth<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>An article about me [Ursula Haverbeck] was published in the S\u00fcddeutsche Zeitung under the title \u2018Hitlerliebe\u2019 (Hitler Love) on July 21\/22, 2018 by a historian, teaching newer and more recent history partly in Jena, partly in Israel. [admin: The Professor is a Jew.]<\/p>\n<p>Professor Norbert Frei begins with the sentence:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cUrsula was 16 years old when Hitler committed suicide.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He should have written:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cUrsula was 16 years old\u201d when\u2026 the war, that was already drawing to an end, caught up with the people who had so far been largely spared in the East. After the total expulsion order, thousands of banished Germans set out to save themselves before the borders of the Bolshevik Red Army. That was the end of childhood and a very happy youth.<\/p>\n<p>Prussians, Pomeranians, Silesians, Sudeten Germans and many other ethnic German groups could never return again to their old ancestral homeland, something that many still expected decades after the war, due to international law.<\/p>\n<p>It was a bitter-cold January in 1945, the roads were frozen with ice. Often narrowly squeezed into three lanes, [German] troops headed east, and the farm buggies headed west, and in between them there were repeated transports of wounded. For the displaced Germans on the carriages, there was only one goal, despite the approaching gunfire, to get to Breslau and across the bridges of the river Oder as soon as possible, before they would be blown up.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That would have said more about the reality of a sixteen-year-old girl\u2019s life in East Germany in 1945.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, a historian is also free to imagine a young person from the Nazi era at his own discretion. However, this usually says more about the mental condition of him than about the person described.<\/p>\n<p>With the currency reform of 1948, a hard and serious cut into life began, especially for the homeless and unemployed expellees in foreign surroundings, where the inhabitants were already overwhelmed by the hundreds of thousands of people bombed out of their homes. All living space was already occupied well into the 1950s.<\/p>\n<p>In England and Sweden they were looking for cleaning ladies for the hospitals and in positions of domestic help. I became a guest worker in Sweden from 1949 to 1953, from where I could support my parents.<\/p>\n<p>The former \u201cBDM\u201d girl [Frau Haverbeck was designated by Prof. Frei to be a Hitler Youth Girl] \u2013 to which I never belonged; I had stayed with the 10-14 year olds as a young girls\u2019 leader \u2013 was neither stubborn, nor angry, nor unhappy, as Norbert Frei claims I, his study object, was. I had a particularly happy time in Sweden. We met once a week in a German-Swedish working group for more than two years to study Rudolf Steiner\u2019s \u2018Philosophy of Freedom\u2019. We read it in German and alternately lectured and discussed it in Swedish. There I heard of Baruch de Spinoza. Three of his sentences became my guide posts:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>From the ethics: \u201cDeus sive natura, \u2018the unity and wholeness of God \u2013 nature.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMan is man\u2019s joy\u201d as a replacement for the old Roman quote \u201cman is man\u2019s wolf.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And from the theological-political treatise: \u201cThe true goal of all politics is freedom.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The philosopher, who was a close friend of the Dutch politician Jan de Witt, recognized this as the basic maxim for the new political design after the collapse of the Spanish foreign rule, already shortly after the Thirty Year War at that time. It was to also point the way ahead for our departure. Freedom, please, not ego-liberalism!<\/p>\n<p>The \u2018Holocaust\u2019 did not exist yet, and not in Sweden nor in Scotland in 1957 either, where I was able to study for a year thanks to a scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>Tales of horror at Auschwitz did not attract further attention under the terror of the bombs and the misery of the displaced people, that was still omnipresent. Furthermore, there was also a large number of opposing statements about Auschwitz by contemporary witnesses, from personal experience. What was truth \u2013 what was a lie?<\/p>\n<p>And not to forget, we knew who had already \u2018declared\u2019 war on us in March of 1933, and who it was that six months later declared the \u2018Holy War\u2019 against the most \u201cbloodthirsty, evil people in the world, the Germans.\u201d That wasn\u2019t a new tune. Our fathers had already heard it in World War One.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDenying the Holocaust is not an opinion, but a crime,\u201d concludes Norbert Frei. For us, \u2018The Holocaust\u2019 was a Hollywood feature film from the USA. So this word first came into our consciousness in 1979. It was an enormous production, in four episodes in succession, with scientific introduction, panel discussion and tearful reports by Auschwitz survivors.<\/p>\n<p>Auschwitz, the Holocaust and the six million gassings were one and the same. From now on it was regarded as the singular guilt of the Germans, that was not atonable for all eternity.<\/p>\n<p>All refutations from available documents and scientific views were indexed, forbidden, destroyed. It was punishable to cite them in agreement, whether submitted by Jews, French, Americans or Germans.<\/p>\n<p>Those born after 1960-1965 no longer had an opportunity to compare the information. For them, the Holocaust became an incontrovertible fact. And even today, every criticism, every question that is difficult to answer is punished with prohibitions and prison sentences. May I remind you of the trials against Ernst Z\u00fcndel and the chemist Germar Rudolf in Mannheim.<\/p>\n<p>The Institut f\u00fcr Zeitgeschichte (IfZ) [Institute of Contemporary History] managed the feat of publishing the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Kommandanturbefehle-1940-45-ohne-IfZ-Bemerkungen-530S.pdf\">\u00a0Standort- und Kommandanturbefehle Auschwitz 1940-45 ohne IfZ Bemerkungen-530S<\/a> in 2000, [commander\u2019s orders at Auschwitz] and still withheld them at the same time from the public. In none of the more than 30 lawsuits [I have attended], have I ever heard them mentioned. (2001 \u2013 2015).<\/p>\n<p>Norbert Frei is made \u201cspeechless\u201d by the \u201cbrazenness\u201d of Ursula Haverbeck. This is simply explained by the fact that she knows not only the time after the Holocaust film, but also the 35 years before it, as well as a number of the critics involved, personally. [The accusations] have been reviewed retrospectively.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe real goal of politics is freedom.\u201d But how do you get freedom? This we find in John\u2019s Gospel:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe truth will set you free\u201d (John 8:32).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ursula Haverbeck, July 31, 2018<\/p>\n<p>\u201chttps:\/\/endederluege.blog\/2018\/08\/31\/ursula-haverbeck-deine-und-meine-wahrheit\/<\/p>\n<p>Short version:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Nazi-Commands-at-Auschwitz-1940-to-1945-SS-Archive-Data-Revealed-053018-65pg.pdf\">Nazi Commands at Auschwitz 1940 to 1945 SS Archive Data Revealed-053018-65pg<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/ernst-b%C3%B6hm\/nazi-commands-at-auschwitz-1940-to-1945-archive-data-revealed\/paperback\/product-23657487.html\">To purchase: Nazi Commands at Autschwitz<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Long Version, so far in German only:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Darstellungen-und-Quellen-zur-Geschichte-Auschwitz-ohne-IfZ-Bemerkungen-530S.pdf\">Darstellungen und Quellen zur Geschichte Auschwitz-ohne IfZ Bemerkungen (Kommandanturbefehle)-530S<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-utility\">This entry was posted in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/category\/holocausts-und-holohoax\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Holocausts und Holohoax<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.germanvictims.com\/category\/ursula-haverbeck\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Ursula Haverbeck<\/a>. 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