{"id":2403,"date":"2018-07-05T01:23:12","date_gmt":"2018-07-05T05:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?p=2403"},"modified":"2018-07-05T01:23:12","modified_gmt":"2018-07-05T05:23:12","slug":"report-on-day-2-of-the-trial-of-political-prisoners-monika-alfred-schaefer-in-munich","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?p=2403","title":{"rendered":"REPORT ON DAY 2 OF THE TRIAL OF POLITICAL PRISONERS MONIKA &#038; ALFRED SCHAEFER IN MUNICH"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><br class=\"gmail-Apple-interchange-newline\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000; font-size: xx-large;\"><b>REPORT ON DAY 2 OF THE TRIAL OF POLITICAL PRISONERS MONIKA &amp; ALFRED SCHAEFER IN MUNICH<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large;\">COURT DAY 2 July 3rd Tuesday: Caption: Alfred Schaefer Released After One Night in Prison!(a small victory)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Number of Press, between 3-4 Security 6 (but feel there are people interested in this case as I see security people sitting down with the audience for a while, looking (body language) very alert and interested but not staying very long(perhaps their break time?)\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?attachment_id=2394\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-2394\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2394\" src=\"http:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SCHAEFER-TRIAL-LADY-MICHELE-SYLVIA-ALFRED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1009\" height=\"955\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SCHAEFER-TRIAL-LADY-MICHELE-SYLVIA-ALFRED.jpg 1009w, https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SCHAEFER-TRIAL-LADY-MICHELE-SYLVIA-ALFRED-300x284.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SCHAEFER-TRIAL-LADY-MICHELE-SYLVIA-ALFRED-768x727.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SCHAEFER-TRIAL-LADY-MICHELE-SYLVIA-ALFRED-317x300.jpg 317w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1009px) 100vw, 1009px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Audience: 12 and stayed 12 (perhaps with one or two change in the people)\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Session starts 12:42 (probably meant to start at 12:30? General Presentation of the day: Very clear, precise and substantial. Unlike yesterday no time was lost for trivial and petty issues like greeting, arrest declaration(of Alfred), and whether water could be available for Alfred and Monika. Hence there was no booing, moans of comments from the audience (unlike yesterday when there were several during the day, culminating with Sylvia Stolz\u02bcs arrest, post Court.( The problem arose due to the fact that although the session was officially finished, the Judge had not left the room yet when she stated that this Court\/ session was \u201cTerror\u201d And everyone had to leave the court so she can be arrested<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">So, unlike yesterday, the audience seemed content and satisfied with what was happening at Court. Alfred\u02bcs lawyer is\u00a0\u00a0Frank\u00a0\u00a0Miksch and Monika\u02bcs lawyer is\u00a0Wolfram\u00a0Nahrath.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Today was Monika\u02bcs turn. Hence Lawyer Frank Miksch read first. (After he started there was one interruption\/comment from the persecutor. Then he continued again \u02bctil the finish. Like yesterday there were many quotes and documents quoted. Newspapers like\u00a0<b><u>Allgemein Zeitung<\/u><\/b>,\u00a0<b><u>Jewish Chronicle<\/u><\/b>\u2026. Gilad Atzmon and \u201cHolocaust Swindle\u201d Gerald Menuhin\u2026possibly his book (if so was only said in German..)\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large;\">T<\/span>hen some rather longer section from<b><u>\u00a0Allgemein Gazette<\/u><\/b>..Words like, \u02bbhistorical\u02bc \u02bbobjective\u02bc and journalistic reports and names but I could not really catch or recognize them. But basically the lawyer was trying to show the absurdity of this law 130, or specifically 130.03, applicable only on the German soil. So words like \u02bbabsurd\u02bc \u02bbabsurdity\u02bc. Holocaust\u00a0<i>Lugen<\/i>\u00a0\u201cpsychological law\u201d The historical fact that Auschwitz plaque had been changed from 4 million to 1-plus million. So, why would \u02bbquestioning the number\u02bc be illegal. Words like\u201dtotalitarian state\u201dwere used. And a constant reference to Bundesrepublik Deutschland something about extreme Right, laws for 100 years.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0Holocaust was mentioned\u00a0 every now and then a quote from Richard Wagner on the \u201cpredation\u201d (of the Jews)? Also questioning the German law with the expression Article this, Article that\u2026etc. At 1:50 a 10 minutes break until 2PM.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>2PM onwards\u2026 Another word used was \u02bboffenkundig\u02bc not allowed to question what is so obvious. Another reference often used was this PARAGRAPH 6 of the German law. This would be repeated until the end. Then there are names like Horst Mahler, Zundel, \u201cBomber Harris Do It Again\u201d in both German and English with obviously more explanation. Staftlaw The the universality of the Law\u2026.including the Law of and for Holocaust(Holocaustianity-my comment not his) discussed other genocides\/holocausts like Armenia that are to open debate and questioning unlike the version for Judea. But that is not possible in<i>\u00a0Bundesrepublik Deutschland<\/i>. So other words mentioned,\u00a0<i>Ein Volk,<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0<i>Verboten<\/i>(forbidden), They were talking about precedent cases too. Horst Mahler, the law=Article 5, often mentioned. And of course Paragraph 6.=exclusive to Germans and to the period of the Third Reich ONLY.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0Literature was mentioned. Along with \u201cconfrontational\u201d \u201cprovocative videos\u00a0<i>Mein Kampfs<\/i>\u00a0(our fights)\u00a0<i>Meine Freiheit<\/i>\u00a0(our freedom) \u201cTotalitarian \u2026\u201d \u201cfalse interpretation of history\u201d. \u201cBilligen und Miss(German S here)billigen\u201d-(Probably the definition for these words meaning appropriate or inappropriate. Again Paragraph 6 and 130. Also mentioned the fact that a Chinese dissident won a Nobel Prize while in jail. What would be a historical interpretation of the Holocaust? Mentioned in detail was the case of Bishop Richard Williamson, about what happened to him, including being interviewed by a Swedish TV on\u00a0 German soil and its consequences.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>At 2:50, the lawyer\u00a0 handed the 22 pgs or so paper to the Judge. In between the Court Clerk came to tell the Judge that the bail has been deposited (5000 Euros) and Alfred\u02bcs passports(Canadian and German) surrendered to the Court so that Alfred can be released from custody. The Judge signed a document. This occurred around 2:30. Therefore at the next break took place from 2:50 to 3:00 p.m.\u00a0Alfred is greeted by friends and his wife outside the trial area.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3:00 p.m.: Lawyer talks now. Some articles of 2005, words like Auschwitz, \u02bbLugen\u02bc(lie) and Dr.Stefan Godsta. Article 5 was mentioned again. There was more quotations and documentation.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The lawyer concluded at 15:25. He lawyer\u00a0 handed the paper over to the Judge. Somewhere in the day 2 ex-constitutional Judges, Hoffman-Reim and Hassimer were quoted who had stated that the Holocaust Law should be repealed. Then, the Prosecutor gave a kind of critique. She is critical of provoking \u201cemotionality\u201d(provoking on purpose that?) First Lawyer Frank\u00a0\u00a0Miksch\u00a0responds (rather briefly) followed by Lawyer Wolfram (much longer and observers said he responded quite eloquently to the critique) stating that it is just Alfred&#8217;s personal style and emotions are natural and appropriate to what one is reading. The Judge then thanks the 2 lawyers and says few words. There is a very short pause. Then, the Judge continues, basically on how the proceedings will be the following day. And other technicalities like the agreement on showing Alfred\u02bcs video.\u00a0 As well on the following day,\u00a0 the Court will listen to Monika and Alfred life, starting off with their childhood.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The trial finished around 4:30PM and will proceed at 10 tomorrow morning.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>REPORT ON DAY 2 OF THE TRIAL OF POLITICAL PRISONERS MONIKA &amp; ALFRED SCHAEFER IN MUNICH COURT DAY 2 July 3rd Tuesday: Caption: Alfred Schaefer Released After One Night in Prison!(a small victory)\u00a0 \u00a0 Number of Press, between 3-4 Security &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/?p=2403\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[705,24,1390,1389,60,1387],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2403"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2404,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403\/revisions\/2404"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2403"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2403"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cafe.nfshost.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2403"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}